The wafer seal is lost - there is hope!
Check out Ben Brogan's post on the Great Wafer Seal.
I have a question: why Rome? Why is the Treaty deposited there? Do post a comment if you know.
BTW, the EU's own site is still quite clear about the status of the Lisbon Treaty:
This can mean one of two things: Ireland will be pushed to vote again, and vote yes. Or because Ireland won't ratify, it won't enter in to force. Hmmm. Whichever will it be?The Treaty of Lisbon was signed on 13 December 2007. It will have to be ratified by all 27 Member States before it can enter into force, which is hoped to be before the next European Parliament elections in June 2009.
(There's a third option, too: the third option. There is no third option - the rules are clear - but you can bet your life the third option will come into play, which is simply to go ahead anyway.)
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Wadi Amin
June 25th, 2008 7:21pmIt'll get through on the sanity clause.
Chris
June 25th, 2008 9:15pmAll together...'There ain't no Sanity Clause'.
Among the several elephants in the room in political discourse in England is the EU. Many (and I am among them) want to see withdrawal.
Augustus
June 26th, 2008 11:03amThe Dutch Minister of Foreign affairs, Max Verhagen, said recently in parliament that he expects the Irish 'No' vote to be dealt with by amending the Treaty to the satisfaction of the Irish Government, and that he expects and that it will be fully ratified 'next year'.
Denis Cooper
June 26th, 2008 12:52pmBecause the Lisbon Treaty itself says so, as have all previous EEC/EC/EU treaties.
Article 6 of the Final Provisions:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2007:306:0135:0145:EN:PDF
"1. This Treaty shall be ratified by the High Contracting Parties in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements. The instruments of ratification shall be deposited with the Government of the Italian Republic.
2. This Treaty shall enter into force on 1 January 2009, provided that all the instruments of ratification have been deposited, or, failing that, on the first day of the month following the deposit of the instrument of ratification by the last signatory State to take this step."
Incidentally, the Great Wafer Seal is not lost, it's just gone for a swim.
Daniel1979
June 26th, 2008 1:16pmI emailed President Klaus of the Czech Republic last week. I got a reply from the Deputy Director for Communications. The Czech Republic will not be ignoring the Irish vote. They will not ratify the treaty..
So that is at least two counties that will not ratify.
From the reponse I got, I don't think they would have ratified anyway, they share the concerns of most people regarding the direction of the EU and the powers it is seeking.
Joseph
June 26th, 2008 1:30pmThe European Economic Community was created by the Treaty Establishing the European Economic Community, othewise known as the Treaty of Rome, in 1957. The Treaty of Rome unsurprisingly provided that instruments of ratification of that treaty were to be deposited with the government of the Italian Republic in Rome. Subsequently, all treaties amending the original treaty (such as the treaties of Maastricht, Amsterdam and Nice) have provided for instruments of ratification to be deposited in Rome. The Treaty of Lisbon, which further amends and renames the original treaty signed in Rome, adopts the same practice and requires instruments of ratification to be deposited with the Italian Government in Rome. Any city could have been chosen: the drafters of the Treaty of Lisbon chose Rome simply because that is the city that has been chosen for all previous treaties amending the original Treaty of Rome.
Frank Pulley
June 26th, 2008 1:31pmI love the Irish people for voting "no", but Irish politics is even more bent than ours; their new PM - the Frank Carson lookalike - it's the way you tell 'em (to vote 'yes' next time) - is being pretty shifty about this, with the drippings from the trough on his ample jowls every time he comes up for air. In the end money will talk and bullshit will walk. The implaccable BBB's (bureacratic bastards of Bruxelles) will continue their inexorable path towards their Utopian EUSSR because blind venality rules.
The other disturbing element of the Irish vote is that I found myself on the same side as Gerry Adams - that was indeed a very uncomfortable alliance even with a clamp on the nose. It has been hardly discussed through the MSM debate on the issue; has he really insinuated himself that deeply into the mainstream of politics? Will he become the new Nelson Mandela? I note that they wheeled the latter out of the geriatric ward yesterday to read the script for SA's denunctiation (if that is how you could describe the tepid disapproval) of Mugabe, because none of the current Marxist leadership were prepared to denounce the evil tyrant for what he is. What a tangled web ...
John
June 26th, 2008 3:08pmSurely you mean the insanity clause. This whole enterprise is founded on insanity, assembled by lunatics and promoted by deranged fascists. Leaving the EU is the only rational thing to do. No ordinary person, those whose voices are being silenced by the powerful political elites, has the slightest thing to gain from this monstrosity of a monolithic oppressive empire.
John
June 26th, 2008 3:10pmThe seal is lost? As in The Prince and the Pauper? That was a fairy tale with a very human dimension. The EU is an inhuman horror.