Public bodies have no role in historical disputes
Two elderly shoe-shiners were shouting with rage outside my local in Istanbul. The subject was America, and they ranted on and on — first about the disaster in Iraq, then about the stirring up of the Kurds, and then about the latest effort in Congress to ‘recognise the Armenian genocide’. What is so very strange about all of this is that American relations with Turkey have generally been very good. In a sense, modern Turkey belongs with Germany and Japan as the most successful creation of the United States after the second world war. In any year, there are 25,000 Turks at American universities, some of them sprigs of the Istanbul rich, many on scholarships, with which the Americans have been generous. Co-operation has gone far in other ways: for instance, the great air base at Incirlik has been vital all along for America’s defence interests, and now, given the Iraq problem, the port of Iskenderun, the old Alexandretta, is also important. Turkey has a good defence industry, especially good when it comes to making aircraft (the F-16s win prizes). She might have developed into an Egypt, but instead she is closer to Spain — industrial, in many places quite prosperous, literate. By most measurements she is now better off than Russia, let alone most countries of the Middle East.
But something has gone badly wrong, and opinion polls now show that the Turks are even more anti-American than the Palestinians. The latest row concerns the adoption of a resolution by the House of Representatives branding the Armenian massacres of 1915 as genocide. What on earth causes Congress to bring up this subject now, almost a century down the line, and relating to an Ottoman empire that has long ceased to exist? And why on earth should these public bodies lecture historians as to what they should be saying? One basic cause seems to be simple enough: money. We all know about the eccentricities of the American legal system, the business of class actions. If Congress recognises the massacres as ‘genocide’, then who knows what claims would be presented to Turkey proper? There was a great deal of Armenian property in eastern Turkey back then.
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Chuck Chambers
October 18th, 2007 7:31amAfter working though Mr. Stone's rambling apologia for the Turks, one is still left with the question with which he chose never to address: "What is modern Turkey?" . If it's a Moslem state, then there was never going to be room for a large Armenian Christian minority with equal citizenship rights. . If it's an ethnic Turkish country, then there was never going to be room for either the Armenians or a large Kurdish Islamic minority. Ethnic Turks have made it a crime even to discuss their 1915 massacre, much of which was personal and grizzly, more like Rwanda than Auschwitz. They don’t enjoy discussing their sustained attempt to wipe out Kurdish culture, a national policy that gave rise to the current mess, either. However much Mr. Stone doesn't like it, the US Congress, whatever their motives, and however indirectly broached, has a legitimate, long term duty to understand what kind of country the modern Turks want their country to be. This responsibility goes "in spades" for the legislatures of the European Union. . Now may not the best time to force the issue, but at some point the ethnic Turks will need to make the existential decision of whether they want to live in the multi-ethnic, multi-religious tent of the EU or in a mono-cultural Turkish state of reduced population and area.
ed hooper
October 18th, 2007 10:25amI don't know how the Article 301 rules apply to resident foreigners such as Mr. Stone but he is nonetheless playing it safe by shilling for Turkey, as he has done on many occasions.
TDK
October 19th, 2007 11:20am"In addition, the figure given for overall losses by the Armenian representative at the Paris peace treaties was 700,000 — not 1.5 million" Oh, that's all right then! Even if you strip away all the debate about intentionality, you are still faced with a situation where the Ottomans instigated and pursued a policy that resulted in a horrific death toll. The Turks then compound this by refusing to countenance any discussion. In contrast I agree with the point that Politicians should not enter such a debate. We've seen the lionization of David Irving after his incarceration; an outcome that results from the political desire to publicly declaim opposition to genocide. That outcome contrasts with his being totally discredited after failing in his libel action. Mixing politics and scholarship never ends happily.
Marc Silver
October 23rd, 2007 4:53am"What's The 'Genocide' To Do With Congress? remainds me of that moronic 1960s protest, "What Sex Got To Do With Love?" As a non-US citizen, how can the author possibly know what is the business of the US Congress? Is he by chance assuming that America has the principles, ethics and obligations of an Old World nation, and Congress is simply doing a terrible job of fulfilling them? America is not essentially a nation or even a country. America is a humanist religion whose founding principle is that ALL HUMAN BEINGS, not only Americans, are created equal and are entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. When Scrooge tried to mollify Marley's ghost by saying, "You were always a good man of business, Jacob," Marley exploded, "Business? MANKIND WAS OUR BUSINESS!" How does the post-Churchillian British public feel about Charles Dicken's conviction? Mankind is the business of the American Congress. Whether certain actions taken against other humans in the Brotherhood of Man is genocide is, and always will be, Americas responsibility. Millions of foreign immigrants seeking a new life in the New World know of this bedrock humanist ideal, and sacrifice everything they have to join it. Norman Stone's intellectual pettifogging will not alter the visceral power of the American ideal.