Lloyd Evans gives a blow-by-blow account of the latest Intelligence2 debate
Against the motion, Richard Dalton, a former British ambassador to Tehran, applied three criteria to the military option. Legality? Regional support? Commitment by the aggressors? He answered No to all three. In any case bombing Iran, he said, was hopelessly short-term. ‘By the time they knew an attack was imminent they’d have dispersed their facilities preparatory to reconstituting them later.’ So we’d need to blitz them again, probably within ten years. To this Dr Bruno Tertrais, a French Middle-East analyst, responded indignantly that ten years was an ideal timescale. ‘What is permanent in diplomacy and politics? Except the British monarchy.’ Loud laughter. He suggested that the response of Iran to an act of war ‘would be manageable’. Bombing, he said, would create a ‘great leap backwards’ and deliver a more compliant Iranian regime.
Dr Ali Ansari, an Iranian academic with a nimble, soft-spoken, wisecracking manner, gave us an insight into Iran’s fragile power structure. The authority of President Ahmadinejad, he said, had collapsed since his election, ‘and I use that term very loosely. He’s not a dictator and though many Iranians would like to achieve dictatorship Iran is too inefficient.’ The country hadn’t invaded anyone for 250 years. Its supposed appetite for aggression was probably overstated. ‘Ahmadinejad is an existentialist threat,’ he finished, ‘but only to Iran.’
Reuel Marc Gerecht, a former CIA analyst, opened up by mocking the CIA. That had us hooked. And his languid, brash rhetoric was compelling but his hostile message was rooted in the past. Iran had sponsored terror for decades, he argued. And his suggestion that ‘Iran has terrorism in its DNA’ was robustly quashed by Dr Ansari. ‘Iranians are not more genetically disposed to evil than anyone else.’
Up stepped Simon Jenkins in a black suit and tie. He won the room over with his plain-speaking charm: ‘Iran is a sophisticated, complex, plural country.’ So why deny them the bomb? It was inevitable. Nukes were a side issue. The point was to stop countries attacking each other. And Iran’s future was precarious. ‘It might become more nasty or less nasty. An attack would make it more nasty.’ Finally, he urged us to remember that the Iranian regime closely monitors Western debates and that a vote for the motion would create turmoil in Tehran. ‘Look! Eight hundred crazy Kensingtonians want to bomb us!’ That joke concluded a fascinating debate. It was like eavesdropping on one of those ‘smoke-filled rooms’ in Washington, London or Brussels where diplomats and military strategists dispute the advantages of peace conferences and invasion plans. The talks versus the hawks. The talks won.
Votes before the debate: For 118; Against 483; Don’t know 195
Votes after the debate: For 154; Against 606; Don’t know 53
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Chris, Leeds
January 25th, 2008 10:26pmAhmadinejad looks to be on the way out in 2009. His sabre rattling, which has Iran sailing dangerously close to the wind, isn't particularly popular with most Iranians (except the revolutionary guard and radical students who tend to be the 'public face' of Iran in the west) nor is he particularly popular with the Ayatollahs. Bombing Iran would have the effect of causing Iranians to rally round Ahmadinejad, and keep in place a leader who is looking to develop nuclear weapons and who passes arms to insurgents in Iraq, fuelling civil conflict. Let the Iranians depose Ahmadinejad in 2009, leaving his fledgling nuclear programme on the scraphead, without inflaming the region yet further, driving up energy prices, endangering Israel and making it possible Ahmadinejad and his revolutionary guards could pass their nuclear technologies to fundementalists.
elixelx
January 29th, 2008 1:45pmDo you really really believe, Chris, that post Ahmadinejad the Iranians would just say No to a nuclear bomb (not a Nuclear programme; just a bomb!) stop with the anti-Israel rhetoric and the confrontational attitude; stop with the sponsorship of terror and become a peace-loving and supporting member of the International Community? It is a sad sad day when 80% of a British audience votes to appease a dictator!