Rod Liddle says that discussions between a radical Muslim MP and a man suspected of facilitating terrorism overseas are fair game. Extradition is a much bigger worry
I remember an enormous furore a couple of decades back when it was revealed that MI5 had been bugging one or another homicidal Welsh nationalist group — The Revolutionary Sons of Noggin the Nog, or something. The Welsh psychos complained that this was an infringement of their civil liberties and that one should be allowed to go about one’s business, setting houses alight and planning bomb attacks on people whose names had vowels, without the totalitarian interference of the state. It occurred to me at the time that if MI5 weren’t bugging these rabid, pinch-faced maniacs, then it was time for a few sackings. The story is back with us because it has been revealed that the Labour MP Sadiq Khan has been bugged by the Old Bill too, during conversations he had with someone who is allegedly a member of Britain’s vibrant bombing community, a man called Babar Ahmed. Babar is currently fighting extradition to the United States, where he is wanted on charges relating to terrorism. It is argued that he is a fervent jihadi in cyberspace, at least. Mr Khan MP is apparently outraged at having been thus bugged; he seems to have taken it personally. And so we now have a debate as to whether it is right that Members of Parliament should be immune from the attentions of the security services — as, it is argued, they have been for a long time.
The present privileged position enjoyed by MPs comes from Harold Wilson’s premiership, of course. I don’t suppose MI5 took the slightest notice of the stricture back then, still less the police. Some commentators, casting dark glances in the direction of, say, George Galloway — or even Sadiq Khan — will assert that things have changed with our MPs, they are no longer the thoroughly dependable fellows that were kicking about in the 1960s and 1970s, and that therefore the rules must change. Even by today’s standards, though, it is hard to think of a less dependable chap than Tom Driberg. Or for that matter — please remember, I come from the Left, and we lefties had one or two constitutional worries back in the late 1970s — the late Airey Neave. So that argument, I think, does not apply. A short while ago, Sir Swinton Thomas, the Interception of Communications Commissioner (have you ever seen that job advertised, by the way? I want it, next time it comes up), argued that MPs should lose their privileged status because the current position meant that ‘MPs and peers can engage in serious crime or terrorism (sic) without running the risk of being investigated’. Tony Blair presumably agreed and quickly decided that the status quo should remain.
The current debacle has been exacerbated by the usual intimations of incompetence, with Jack Straw saying he knew nothing of the surveillance of one of his close colleagues. When New Labour is eventually voted out of office, my abiding memory of the regime will be of a Cabinet minister, his face pink and innocent, announcing that he had no idea about anything. But beyond all that stuff, we have the question as to whether an MP’s conversation with one of his constituents should be sacrosanct and beyond the reach of the likes of MI5, even when it is with an alleged jihadist.
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February 7th, 2008 11:20am"I worry about the radical Muslims who are instead convicted and locked up simply for saying stuff." Ah, yes, like your criticism of the prosecution of "lyrical terrorist" Samina Malik? Only it turned out she was a little bit more than just a naive versifier, didn't it, in light of her email exchanges with Sohail Qureshi about airport security?
Herbert Thornton
February 7th, 2008 6:08pmWhile reading Ron Liddle's piece, I began to wonder if there was some mistake. Had he fallen under the influence of Mark Steyn? Had Ron's instead of Mark's name been accidentally attached to it? Had Ron lost his rose tinted leftist spectacles, so that he was seeing the world as it really is?
Alas, the spectacles had only been mislaid. As he was starting his last paragraph, somebody who'd found them came running in and restored them to him, and he was overcome with sympathy for poor Ahmed, the alleged terrorist.
John Bunyan
February 8th, 2008 4:22amWho do we bug ? Whom. What is the objective?
Paul
February 8th, 2008 3:04pmBetter check with the Archbishop what the new legal code will have to say on the subject.
Riaz Ahmad
February 11th, 2008 12:17amAll rod has offered in this article is a bit of brainless sansationalism. The entire article is devoid of any rational argument or reasoning. Those with wit and vision do not succomb to such cheep tools. Rod, you are a prepogandist, as for journalism, you need to start from the nursory.
Shuggy
February 15th, 2008 2:34pmRiaz Ahmad; the article offers many valid points, and is designed to give the reader something to think about - not be told how to think. It is simply opinion. If you want to be TOLD how to think then go to church/a mosque. See if they can sort out your spelling too, while you're at it.
To' Azeredo
February 18th, 2008 2:32amIs Riaz's comment an attempt at parody? For the sake of the respect one should accord his "wit and vision", let's hope so.