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The Spectator Podcast: Summer of terror | 30 July 2016

After a week where both Germany and France suffered terror attacks, the question of the relationship between Islamic terrorism and Europe’s refugee crisis is once again rearing its head. In his Spectator cover piece, Douglas Murray argues that whilst the public knows that ‘Islamism comes from Islam’, Europe’s political classes are still refusing to tackle the problem at its core. So how can we bridge this gap between what politicians are saying and what the public are thinking? And does Europe have to come to terms with a new reality of domestic terrorism? On this week’s podcast, Douglas Murray speaks to Lara Prendergast. Joining them both to discuss Europe’s summer of terror is Haras Rafiq, Managing Director of the Quilliam Foundation, a counter-extremism think tank. Speaking to Lara, Douglas says:

‘One of the most interesting things was when the French Prime Minister said after Nice that France might have to get used to terrorism. A lot of people reacted very badly to that statement. I thought it was in some ways refreshingly frank because Manuel Valls is not wrong. Although you can limit the ability of terrorists to get hold of Kalashnikovs and explosives, it is extremely hard to limit people’s access to knives and trucks. So you do have to warn the public.’

Whilst Haras Rafiq says that the approach to tackling terrorism in Europe has been wrongheaded and needs to change:

‘In Europe, they have been focusing on containment and stopping terrorist attacks. It is a bit like treating the symptoms. It is a bit like giving the penicillin to someone who has got the disease. When are we going to tackle the disease?’

In the US, the Republicans swore in Donald Trump as their candidate last week. But in a Presidential race that shows no signs of slowing down, the Democratic party was rocked by the leak of 20,000 private emails which appeared to undermine the Democrats’ process for selecting their candidate: Hillary Clinton.

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