"You're just trying to steer away and the more I tried to steer away the worse it was. You could see the conclusion coming and I made the mistake of making actually quite a trivial point ... but it has changed my views."
"I cannot justify members of parliament claiming flat-screen televisions, buying beds, buying three-piece suites, buying cookers, buying microwaves. And the fact is, I have never done that and would never dream of doing that – as we say up north, 'I buy me own bed' – doesn't in any way make me less guilty. It's the fact I can."