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The Spectator podcast: The end of experts

On this week’s podcast we reappraise the role of experts, scrutinise the chaotic papacy, and check in with the court of King Donald.

First up: In this week’s cover story, Fraser Nelson writes that the definitive quote from the referendum was one that the speaker, Michael Gove, never meant to make. In an interview with Faisal Islam, Gove was heard to claim that the British people ‘have had enough of experts’. But was that really the point that Gove was making? And, eight months on, was he actually right? Fraser joins the podcast to discuss this, along with the Spectator’s Political Editor, James Forsyth.

So who should we be listening to? As Fraser tells the podcast:

“I’m not saying you shouldn’t listen to experts, it’s just that there’s a difference between somebody who understands economics and somebody who’s able to predict the future. The best economists will tell you that they are not clairvoyants, they make this point quite forcefully. I remember Robert Chote, who runs the Office for Budget Responsibility, was once being challenge about his estimates, saying ‘what if they’re wrong?’, and he replied ‘well, of course they’re wrong, they’re economic forecasts. They’re always wrong.'”

Whilst Britain and the US hogged the headlines in 2016, the Vatican City was making waves of its own. Pope Francis, the Argentinian Jesuit championed by much of the press as a reforming force within Roman Catholicism, has fallen out of favour with some parts of his flock, not least Damian Thompson, who writes this week that the Pope is ‘simultaneously combative, charming, bad-tempered, idealistic and vengeful.’ Is the tide turning against Francis? Or is this just another day in the life of Catholic in-fighting? Damian and Cristina Odone, from the Legatum Institute, join the podcast this week.

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