‘I don’t think we’ve gained anything’ – Cardinal Pell on the Vatican and China
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Cardinal George Pell has given a wide-ranging interview to The Spectator‘s Holy Smoke podcast in which he criticises the Vatican’s 2018 deal with Beijing and especially the secrecy surrounding it. The unpublished pact allows the Chinese Communist Party to choose Catholic bishops, whose appointments are then rubber-stamped by Pope Francis. ‘I know high-up people in
